Wednesday, September 16, 2009

Vatican-Pius X Society Talks Set for October: Reveals Names of Holy See Delegation

VATICAN CITY, SEPT. 15, 2009 ( The Holy See will hold talks with the Society of St. Pius X in October, according to a Vatican spokesman, and not "in a few days," as earlier reported by an Austrian cardinal.

Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, director of the Vatican press office, confirmed today that the meeting will take place during the last two weeks of October.

He also revealed the three Vatican representatives: Dominican Father Charles Morerod, secretary-general of the International Theological Commission, Jesuit Josef Becker, and the vicar general of Opus Dei, Father Ocariz Brana.

The archbishop of Vienna, Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, told the Passauer Neue Presse on Saturday that the talks would begin this week.

He also said "the SSPX will be told very clearly what is not negotiable for the Holy See. This includes such fundamental conclusions of the Second Vatican Council as its positions on Judaism, other non-Christian religions, other Christian churches and on religious freedom as a basic human right."

In July, Benedict XVI restructured the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, uniting it more closely to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

The commission was formed in 1988 for those communities and persons who, coming from the Society of St. Pius X or from similar groups, wish to return to full communion with the Successor of Peter.

The president of the commission is the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, currently Cardinal William Levada. The Holy Father appointed as secretary Monsignor Guido Pozzo, who is currently assistant secretary of the International Theological Commission and official of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

In March, Benedict XVI lifted the excommunications of four Lefebvrite bishops who were excommunicated in 1988 when they received episcopal ordination illicitly at the hands of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, who ordained them without papal permission.

The decree to lift the excommunications was made public days after one of the four -- Bishop Richard Williamson -- appeared on Swedish television in a previously taped interview in which he refuted the extent of Holocaust. A furor ensued which led Vatican-Jewish relations to the breaking point.

In a March letter to the world's bishops, explaining why he had lifted the excommunications, Benedict XVI announced his intention to place the commission under the guidance of the doctrinal congregation.

He said it "will make it clear that the problems now to be addressed are essentially doctrinal in nature and concern primarily the acceptance of the Second Vatican Council and the post-conciliar magisterium of the popes."


This is very problematic. Just when Benedict started to make some moves in the direction of orthodoxy, we have this statement from Cardinal Schönborn who explicitly states that "3" of the most troublesome doctrinal heresies of the Second Vatican Council will be non-negotiable when the Vatican meets with representatives of the SSPX. The conciliar and post-conciliar teaching on "religious liberty" contradicts all prior Catholic teaching on the subject as do the pronouncements on Judaism and other non-Christian religions. This alone should serve to establish that Benedict has no intention of radically correcting or rejecting Vatican II or the post-Conciliar teaching which is incompatible with the Deposit of the Faith. What is given with one hand is taken away by the other.

The current Vatican continues to insist through its advocacy of HISTORICISM that Catholics suspend all rational belief including the existence of "first principles of being" specifically, the law of non-contradiction. According to St. Thomas the soul is composed of the intellect and the will. The conciliar Vatican asks that Catholics adulterate their intellect by accepting contradictions as if they were compatible. This is to make the soul the captive of an unguided will and an improperly formed conscience which is the very definition of heresy. Virtually any aberrant and outlandish idea or practice can be foisted upon one who lacks the intellect to properly discipline their will.

The hierarchy of the conciliar church demands that Catholics accept patent falsehoods. This means that anyone who is capable of recognizing them is automatically excluded from their company. How is it possible that faith and reason complement each other--as traditionally taught by the Church--if reason must be discarded in order to accept the conciliar churches pronouncements?

The real question is who has departed from the Traditional Faith, the conciliar church or those Catholics who have tried to maintain the faith of the Apostles, Church Father's, Martyrs, and Saints?

--Dr. J. P. Hubert

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